my mom went to the sunday meeting and a missionary that was formerly in the congregation was showing (boring) slides about the "work" in africa.
when he showed some pictures of some witnesses, they were dressed in what he called "messianic attire".
he told the audience that it was no big deal that they were being allowed to continue this style of dress by the society since it was merely seen as "cultural".
Does anyone else think that it is the heighth of presumptuousness that the Society is "allowing" people to dress in their native attire?
What do you mean? The society "allowing" seems to be your point. Do you think that the Society is too controlling or has too much power? They certainly push their laws and doctrines on others, and they punish them if they do not accept their way of thinking.
my mom went to the sunday meeting and a missionary that was formerly in the congregation was showing (boring) slides about the "work" in africa.
when he showed some pictures of some witnesses, they were dressed in what he called "messianic attire".
he told the audience that it was no big deal that they were being allowed to continue this style of dress by the society since it was merely seen as "cultural".
Ahemm............! As to attire, the assumption would be that God is expecting Western (no, not cowboy) civ type clothing. Yet, from what we know from the Bible, He would seem to prefer folks in their birthday suits (pun intended) vis a vis Adam and Eve. (I think He gets a kick out of the naughty bits.)
OTOH, what we know from Hollywood is that He (God, not Cecil B. de Mille) is quite comfortable with robes and such. I think if it were a smiting matter, God would make it abundantly more clear what he wants us to wear. Therefore, on all matters where He is not abundantly clear, we can assume that it is a "matter of personal conscience."
Does anyone in their right mind think the the Almighty gives a fig what we wear?
Well, if you went around naked in public you might get arrested. So apparently some prefer that you do not walk around naked. In some places it is allowed, like on a beach or some other secluded area. The human body is work of divine creation it does not bring God shame.
If you wore a revealing dress to a place of worship it might cause a brother that is weak in the flesh anxiety. If a man that was married looked at you in a lustful sort of way, this would cause problems with his wife if she caught him looking at you. Proper dress in modesty is admonished sound in reason and in excercising a clean conscience before God. This should take the lead in deciding what to wear. Mr. E
my mom went to the sunday meeting and a missionary that was formerly in the congregation was showing (boring) slides about the "work" in africa.
when he showed some pictures of some witnesses, they were dressed in what he called "messianic attire".
he told the audience that it was no big deal that they were being allowed to continue this style of dress by the society since it was merely seen as "cultural".
People that celebrate them have no idea of the origin so they are not sinning. What is your point? Who is it I am judging?Read your own words, you just said who you are judging.
I am not judging anyone. I remember you. You enjoy confrontations. Have a great day....... ORIGINS OF BIRTHDAY CUSTOMS
What are the origins of some of the customs used to celebrate
birthdays? Following are some secular publications and their comments
of these origins.
The German periodical "Schw?bische Zeitung" (magazine supplement Zeit
und Welt) of April 3/4, 1981 on page 4 stated: "The various customs
with which people today celebrate their birthdays have a long
history. Their origins lie in the realm of magic and religion. The
customs of offering congratulations, presenting gifts and celebrating
- complete with lighted candles - in ancient times were meant to
protect the birthday celebrant from the demons and to ensure his
security for the coming year. . . . Down to the fourth century
Christianity rejected the birthday celebration as a pagan custom."
my mom went to the sunday meeting and a missionary that was formerly in the congregation was showing (boring) slides about the "work" in africa.
when he showed some pictures of some witnesses, they were dressed in what he called "messianic attire".
he told the audience that it was no big deal that they were being allowed to continue this style of dress by the society since it was merely seen as "cultural".
Mr. E, obviously you have never been to a birthday party. You really need to research the issue and make an attempt to prove your statement biblically. There are many, many sites and threads about birthday's and how the jw's don't have a leg to stand on that issue. If you had ever been to a birthday party you would realize nobody gets thier head lopped off, no person or even the birthday person is worshiped, nobody sings magical incantations or any other such nonsense the wt puts out about it.
Col 2:16 -- 16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
Yes I have been to a birthday party. People that celebrate them have no idea of the origin so they are not sinning. What is your point? Who is it I am judging? Inquirying minds want to know
my mom went to the sunday meeting and a missionary that was formerly in the congregation was showing (boring) slides about the "work" in africa.
when he showed some pictures of some witnesses, they were dressed in what he called "messianic attire".
he told the audience that it was no big deal that they were being allowed to continue this style of dress by the society since it was merely seen as "cultural".
Clothing attire is cultural in different lands. Celebrating birthdays is more in the line of traditions of men. Many people come together in love during the honoring of their childs birth. When you die it is a disheartening occurrance and many people mourn over. A righteous man is usually remembered for his righteous works and is honored at his death. It does not mean it is more important then your day of birth in respect to showing love to one another.
If you join together with your family for a birthday celebration, are you sinning if you are not celebrating the acts of magic practitioners? It is better to show love for your family while avoiding anything that might displease God. Honor the Father in the Heavens first in prayer, and then honor your children in love.
Mr. E
when i was in the witnesses, and near the end of my time in.
there was the whole new understanding, of putting non-anointed people in positions in the organization that were normally something an anointed person would be in.
i remember them mentioning that the amount of anointed was dwindling and there needed to be people in these positions of responsibility, to make sure the work continues.. after this was highlighted and all good witnesses swallowed this thinking hook line and sinker.
What scriptures link the 144,000 out of the Tribe of Israel to those that go to heaven and also to them being anointed? Are all of the governing body members anointed?
Mr. E
so for our "congregation book study", we are still deeply mired in the bible teach book.
this week's lesson talks about the whole idea that the book of job relates the central issue of the entire cosmos, a vital issue raised by satan, where satan questions whether humans follow god because of what they are given, or because he deserves it.
i'm surprised that the book of job, obviously archetypal and figurative (for example, i doubt people back then literally spoke for hours in hebrew verse, and i doubt that four messengers showed up all in a row with stories telling that they, only they, got away to tell of a disaster) even has a place in the canon; aside from its lack of any specific historical position or accuracy, the argument it advances (especially as the society interprets it) is facile: the idea that privileged, wealthy, powerful job somehow stands as a representative for all humanity and serves as a litmus test for man's interaction with god is downright silly.
Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and it's agitation, while men become faint out of fear and expectations of the things coming upon the inhabited earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (Luke 21:25-26)
This Prophecy has been fulfilled, AMEN.......
Next to be fulfilled:
And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great Glory (Luke 21:27)
AMEN UNTIL TIME INDEFINITE.......
The Faithful Slave of JAH and CHRIST
have a good day.......PEACE
so for our "congregation book study", we are still deeply mired in the bible teach book.
this week's lesson talks about the whole idea that the book of job relates the central issue of the entire cosmos, a vital issue raised by satan, where satan questions whether humans follow god because of what they are given, or because he deserves it.
i'm surprised that the book of job, obviously archetypal and figurative (for example, i doubt people back then literally spoke for hours in hebrew verse, and i doubt that four messengers showed up all in a row with stories telling that they, only they, got away to tell of a disaster) even has a place in the canon; aside from its lack of any specific historical position or accuracy, the argument it advances (especially as the society interprets it) is facile: the idea that privileged, wealthy, powerful job somehow stands as a representative for all humanity and serves as a litmus test for man's interaction with god is downright silly.
And will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and gnashing of teeth will be. (Matthew 24:51)
I have spent time in the wicked world of mankind to be tested and acted as a Hypocryte, in order to know what my friends are like in their person. I hated with a passion, what they do in disrespect of The Almighty GOD, and in disrepect to all that is Holy. We all watched through my eyes, as I begged for JAH to bring this world to a close.
I have experienced the Most Violent and Wicked in Nature known as satan the devil in my body, heart, and soul. This is THE WAR OF ARMAGEDDON BEING WAGED IN THE HEAVENS AS WE SPEAK.......as a witness to know that it is occurring and taking place in like manner to the war in The Middle East, the birthplace of JESUS CHRIST, THE TRUE MESSIAH, AMEN UNTIL TIME INDEFINITE ! ! ! ! ! ! !
The TRUE meaning of weeping and gnashing of teeth.
From The Alimghty to Jesus Christ and The Twelve, we weep in torment, as we see the pain and suffering allowed to occurr upon the earth, as a testing ground for good and evil. We gnash our teeth in bitter anger in order to cleanse the spirit of our true persons. There is no greater anger than that which emanates from the wicked spirits in the heavens.......
This is The TRUE Meaning of "The Faithful and Discreet Slave of JAH and Jesus Christ"
No one has be so blessed as myself, with the "Grand Privilege" as to be the one and only person upon the earth to fulfill it.......amen
ALL PRAISES BELONG FIRST;
TO THE ALMIGHTY FATHER IN THE HEAVENS
Then to those in humble subjection to the ALMIGHTY FATHER
HE ALONE WILL REIGN SUPREME IN THE END, AMEN UNTIL TIME INDEFINITE.......PEACE AND GOODWILL TO MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN, AND TO ALL LIFE UPON THE PLANET EARTH.......
THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS IN YOUR MIDST, AMEN UNTIL TIME INDEFINITE.......
The Faithful Slave of JAH and CHRIST
so for our "congregation book study", we are still deeply mired in the bible teach book.
this week's lesson talks about the whole idea that the book of job relates the central issue of the entire cosmos, a vital issue raised by satan, where satan questions whether humans follow god because of what they are given, or because he deserves it.
i'm surprised that the book of job, obviously archetypal and figurative (for example, i doubt people back then literally spoke for hours in hebrew verse, and i doubt that four messengers showed up all in a row with stories telling that they, only they, got away to tell of a disaster) even has a place in the canon; aside from its lack of any specific historical position or accuracy, the argument it advances (especially as the society interprets it) is facile: the idea that privileged, wealthy, powerful job somehow stands as a representative for all humanity and serves as a litmus test for man's interaction with god is downright silly.
the Master of the slave will come on a day that he does not expect him and in an hour that he does not know.(Matthew 24:50)
I have met THE FATHER, THE FIRST MASTER.
I have met JESUS CHRIST, my Master upon the earth of mankind.
They came to me when I did not expect it, which is held to be TRUE, AMEN until time indefinite.
The Faithful Slave of JAH and CHRIST
so for our "congregation book study", we are still deeply mired in the bible teach book.
this week's lesson talks about the whole idea that the book of job relates the central issue of the entire cosmos, a vital issue raised by satan, where satan questions whether humans follow god because of what they are given, or because he deserves it.
i'm surprised that the book of job, obviously archetypal and figurative (for example, i doubt people back then literally spoke for hours in hebrew verse, and i doubt that four messengers showed up all in a row with stories telling that they, only they, got away to tell of a disaster) even has a place in the canon; aside from its lack of any specific historical position or accuracy, the argument it advances (especially as the society interprets it) is facile: the idea that privileged, wealthy, powerful job somehow stands as a representative for all humanity and serves as a litmus test for man's interaction with god is downright silly.
And should start beating his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards (Matthew 24:49)
I was led to those chosen and revealed to the family of Christ that they were chosen also.
I was instructed to test their heart in this world by words put forth by JAH. So that those in the heavens can witness and also learn the Wisdom of The Almighty from the standpoint of a human. Seven out of those I was sent forth to experienced death of someone close to them.
I was instructed on how to councel them and also to provide them with gifts of love, and minimal monitary assistance according to my resources. I revealed to them that they were gifts from GOD. This is the True meaning of beating his fellow slaves, as a witness to what satan placed before them. Jehovah will reward them according to their worthiness. AMEN.......
I spent time in places that I avoided as a Christian due to restrainment from my bible based conscious. I was tested to see if I could be drawn back into the evil world of mankind. I also witnessed the degradation of human society caused by comsumption of alcohol. I see my friends drink and act uncaringly. They suffer in health and in spiritual breakdown. Many have broken hearts from all they do to each other while intoxicated.
This is the meaning of eating and drinking with the confirmed drunkards. The faithful slave can in no way be led back into the wicked world of mankind built up by satan and his demons.
The Faithful Slave of JAH and CHRIST
